
Raw Girl
An Interview with Angja Aditi

Summer 2004
By Carlo
Ravin
Carlo: I’m sitting here on a lovely Spring morning
at the fabulous Inn of the Seventh Ray, with the eminent raw food chef, Angja
Aditi. Angja, thank you very much for agreeing to the interview.
Angja:
It’s my pleasure.
Carlo: You are truly a rising star in the raw community
here in Southern California. And your name is quite lovely, what does it mean?
Angja: Thank you. Angja is Tibetan for “enlightenment through
the heart”, and Aditi, given to me by a spiritual teacher, is Sanskrit
and she is known as the “Mother of Creation”.
Carlo: Tell me, what were some of
the things that are responsible for your own progression from cooked food to
raw food?
Angja: I was raised primarily on a European diet - three
home-cooked meals a day, fresh fruits and vegetables, and a good helping of
meats. I had some friends in high school who were Krishna devotees and who
attempted to convince me to go vegetarian, which at the time I felt was not
possible. My mother didn’t want to do this, and so while I became sympathetic
toward a vegetarian diet, I kept the eating habits and diet that I had grown
up with. At 18, I left my parent’s home, and went vegetarian on my own.
Shortly after that, I became a vegan, for health and political reasons. I
remained a strict vegetarian for a couple of years, avoiding all processed
oils, breads, and basically I ate a lot of greens. It was a natural
progression of my vegan consciousness to then finally go raw.
Carlo: You
said you went vegan for political reasons. Do you mean for animal rights
issues?
Angja: Well, there is that, yet it was primarily due to my
discontent with agri-business. I feel that this industry is responsible for
much of the imbalance in the environment, and I wanted personally to do my
part to help the cycle of the Earth stay in balance.
Carlo: As a Pagan, I
feel that. That’s beautiful and so true.
Angja: And not to mention that
agri-business also creates an imbalance in the natural cycle of the Earth by
its support of the fast-food industry, which in turn is responsible for the
great dietary imbalances of so many people the world over, especially in
America. The effects of fast food and foods of convenience have ruined our own
interconnectedness with the Earth and Spirit.
Carlo: Yeah, so please don’t
supersize me.
Angja: I almost saw that at a film festival.
Carlo: It’s
a great documentary. So would you say that your decision to go from vegan to
raw was based more on spiritual principles or health reasons?
Angja: My
understanding of our species is that we have a lot of “work” to do in order to
emanate our full potential. I have always had a deep awareness for my true
love of Spirit, and the desire to transform karma. As human beings, we have a
great responsibility for the self, those around us and our environment. The
conscious decision to eat a healthier diet is one of many keys to cleansing
our bodies and maintaining a universe of sustainability.
Carlo: Thus, the
body is truly the temple of the soul.
Angja: Right. Basically, the cleaner
you keep your body, the cleaner and more pure you keep your spirit.
Carlo:
What types of objections to a raw diet have you encountered, and how do you
address them?
Angja: The Americans masses are not accustomed to a “raw”
diet at this time. Americans are programmed with processed convenience. In
Europe for example, Italy, France and the Persian countries, healthy raw
and/or fermented foods are part of the culture. The question of “How will you
get enough protein?” is common, and things like “What are you going to eat?”
It’s the modern culture that “forgot” and only need remember that we have
always had a myriad of leafy greens, fruit, vegetables, seeds and nuts with
flavors, textures and scents to satisfy needs and desires. We have to kick
that good ol’ memory into gear before all these delicious items go extinct,
along with us.
Carlo: What are some of the myths out there regarding raw
food that you have encountered, if any? Is there any one Big Lie you’d like to
address?
Angja: I don’t think there is really any one primary myth or lie
about raw food. I actually have more of an issue with the extreme fanaticism
within the health food community itself. Like anti-cooked campaigns are a
little ridiculous. Any extreme positions based on fear and shock value
probably do more harm than good. For instance, when someone says that “all” of
something is “bad” or “wrong” that could either put the other on defense
and/or develop into a complex that is not conducive to harmonious healing.
Carlo: Pagans call that fundamentalism – one word, one way.
Angja:
Yes. It stems from fear. Yet it’s really all about listening to your
intuition. Listen to your body and your heart. We all have variations in our
personal needs, spiritually and physically. Perhaps for some people, going raw
is a spiritual quest. Ultimately, it is a matter of going through multiple
levels of physical, emotional, and spiritual understanding that connect us as
a whole. It’s like music. Each note represents a vibration. When several notes
are thoughtfully written and played, they blend into a beautiful and melodic
harmony. A Symphonic Convergence! And so it is within us and around us.
Proceeding along the path of raw food reflects the fusion of vibration when
creating music.
Carlo: Raw foodist as symphony composer…brilliant. As a
mother, what advice can you give to parents who want to go raw and to include
their children in that decision?
Angja: I recommend that parents represent
at least 75% of their children’s diet with raw food and dark green vegetables.
And remember that children are creative and they are individuals. I advise
parents not to constrict the child’s ability to experiment within the parents’
accepted boundaries. Let them assess for themselves, given choices, on what
they like and want to eat based on their intuition. Even kids have their own
needs and body reactions to certain foods.
Carlo: What resources do you
recommend for folks exploring the path of the raw food diet?
Angja:
Research as many books as possible. Seek to learn not just about raw food, but
also about the way the body functions as a whole, from several different
perspectives. Talk to those who are experienced in Western, Ayurvedic, Chinese
and Japanese medicine. Understand the analysis on your personal constitution,
health and well-being. Research body theories, energy systems and the flow of
chi. Detoxing is crucial. It is very important to go on a balanced internal
cleansing program. Most of all, I suggest listening to your body, it is your
best teacher.
Carlo: I found that I was perplexed by the opposite opinions
of raw food author Victoria Boutenko, who suggests as you do, that we always
listen to our bodies. The position of health pioneer Paul Bragg is that “flesh
is dumb”. I’ve used Bragg’s systems for fasting and colonics for over ten
years, and always accepted that I have to mentally tell my body what to do.
Perhaps that is just for toxic habits. It seems if you are eating healthy and
well, your body will naturally want more of the good stuff and automatically
reject what is toxic. So the “listen to your body” school of thought prevails.
Angja: Sure. After a good cleanse the cravings for heavy things like
sugars and salts decreases and you get a better sense of what your body really
needs. I also think it’s important to examine global demographics. Understand
where you are in relation to others and the foods that are available to you.
You don’t have to import or necessarily eat the foods that may be popular in
the diet of indigenous peoples of far-off countries. The modern American
lifestyle does not always indicate a yin diet for everyone. I have found that
after being vegan for ten years, a piece of raw sushimi once a month helps to
ground me a great deal.
Carlo: What type?
Angja: High grade sashimi
albacore, it’s not easy to find. The lower sashimi grades are seared.
Carlo: And that’s just your body.
Angja: For now… of course things are
subject to change.
Carlo: What does your typical monthly diet look like,
besides the raw fish?
Angja: I drink a lot of water. Especially living in
a desert. I love one in particular, Lurisia, an Italian spring water. I eat
mostly dark greens for lunch and dinner, some avocados, berries, apples. I
like almond milk, flax seed crackers, some of my macadamia nut cheese, and
seaweed, too.
Carlo: And what don’t you eat?
Angja: I’m not a big fan
of bananas. For some, hybridization is an issue. I don’t like dried or
sprouted legumes, I find them hard to digest, too gaseous, and they taste
terrible. Although, fresh legumes off the vine are totally yummy! I don’t care
for raw spinach either. Mostly because of taste however, it is considered high
in oxalic acid, which can be hard on the liver. I prefer young dandelion,
arugula, herbs and wild greens.
Carlo: Do you sprout?
Angja: Yes. I
usually soak all my nuts, seeds, and dried fruits. I love to sprout seeds and
again I don’t care for sprouted legumes.
Carlo: And do you juice?
Angja: Yes. I tend not to juice root vegetables, like carrots. I find they
have too much sugar for me. My favorite juice I make consists of two bunches
of dark greens, one apple, a sliver of lemon with rind, a little wedge and a
small piece of ginger. It’s delicious. It should be super green with a little
apple sweetness, a hint of ginger zing and a spritz of lemon zest.
Carlo:
Oh yummy.
Angja: Yeah it is.
Carlo: What types of protein do you
recommend for raw foodists? Any supplements?
Angja: You’ll find protein in
a variety of dark greens, vegetables, nuts and seeds. Pumpkin seeds are one of
the highest. Maybe some raw fish, some raw dairy. As for supplements, I
suggest two mixes, one is called Pure Synergy, and the other is
VitaMineralGreen. Of course, adding Acidophilus cultures and taking bitters is
always good too.

Carlo: Is it common for someone to attempt a raw diet only
later to return to a cooked food diet? Do you have any suggestions on how to
handle this?
Angja: If you are eating a normal diet, and then go raw, and
then go back to a normal diet, you can create confusion and disharmony in the
body. So it is important to proceed with great intention, step by step, at a
pace that is comfortable for you. Allowing for a healing process that is
gentle, profound, and long lasting. If you allow yourself the gift of a
healthier diet, your body will gladly accept it, and it will show in your
everyday life. It’s like dropping a pebble into the water. As the pebble sinks
to the bottom and settles in the sand, ripples cast themselves throughout the
water. This ripple affect is akin to your body frequency sending vibrations
outward and into the universe.
Carlo: When embarking on the path of raw
food, Mrs. Boutenko suggests the birds-of-a-feather approach; that is, to
create a support group of friends and contacts to help ease the transition.
What is your opinion, and do you have anything to add?
Angja: Yes, that is
a good idea. Surrounding yourself with healthy people and other raw food
enthusiasts will absolutely help in that transition.
Carlo: Reminds me of
that old Rodney Dangerfield joke, “If you want to look skinny, hang out with
fat people.”
Angja: There can be a dysfunctional aspect common to human
fanaticism. Meaning that when people attach themselves to one way of thinking,
there can be an ego component that causes them to feel…
Carlo: … superior
or advanced. As in, “Maybe she’ll be as cool and as raw as us someday.”
Angja: Yes, so just beware of that in the context of groups.
Carlo:
What is your opinion of fruititarianism? Most fruits tend to be tastier than
many vegetables, so why not become a fruititarian?
Angja: Again, it’s
about one’s own constitution and environment. Fruits are tremendous for
cleansing purposes, they are very yin in nature and have calories. Yet too
much fruit can, in some people, can create a sugar imbalance. Be sure to eat
fruit that is ripe, otherwise it will be overly acidic. Eating fruit in season
is also best. Apples in the Fall; cherries, pears, peaches, watermelon, and
strawberries are good in the Summer, and so forth. When I’m in the tropics I
eat more exotic fruits like mangos and papayas, which I tend to decline when
eating at home. You have more year round variety when you are in tropical
lands.
Carlo: You mentioned the acidic nature of unripe fruit. Do you
think that a raw food diet is primarily beneficial for health because of its
ability to keep the body alkaline, rather than acidic, and for its enzymatic
benefits?
Angja: Yes, for both reasons. Your pH balance and your enzymes
are two main components to a balanced raw food diet. If you eat a lot of overcooked processed foods, then you will probably have to build on your enzymes.
One way to do this is acidopholus supplements and bitters. You can eat all the
raw food you want, but if you are not digesting and assimilating, you may need
to keep a gentle cleansing program to build digestive strength and fire. It is
best to focus on eating a “balanced raw food diet”. It could take years to
explore the diets and the foods that are best for you.
Carlo: Organic
labeling has recently come under seige. Do you have any suggestions about what
people can do to verify the organic nature of their food products?
Angja:
Shop at your local farmers’ market. Call companies directly to inquire about
their growing and manufacturing processes.
Carlo: Tell me about your new
line of raw foods. How did you conceive the products? And where can they be
purchased right now?
Angja: I wanted to increase the availability of
appetizing raw foods with a line that emulates products that are gourmet both
in flavor and consistency, yet are dairy free and gluten free. This allows the
options for more fresh and creative meals. The raw cheeses and pates can be
used with anything. I have friends who use it on their cooked chicken. Hey, if
that is their raw food for the week, I’ll have to say hooray! My products are
a line of raw gourmet condiments, really. Used to add flavor and fullness to a
balanced raw diet. You can get them at the Food Cooperative in Santa Monica,
PC Greens in Malibu, and Erewhon in Los Angeles. I also take orders and make
shipping arrangements via e-mail at eatfoodforlife@yahoo.com.
Carlo:
Finally, what is next for raw food? Where do you hope to see it in ten years?
And the same question for you.
Angja: I expect to see an integration of
raw food into all food outlets, including homes, school systems, supermarkets
and convenient stores. I would like to see a steady increase of raw food
available to the mainstream. I intend to expand my line of raw foods to
further meet people’s needs and expectations. Fulfilling the path of taste and
the ability to digest for the typical raw foodie, health connoisseur or the
mainstream consumer. There is a whole venue of mainstream Americans who want
to be healthier. They either haven’t realized it yet or they don’t know how to
do it. Right now I am shipping the non-dairy raw cheeses and cream to
allopathic physicians who provide dietary counseling for kids with autism.
Instead of convincing someone that “far out” is good for you. I want to sell
them on what they already know. Chic products with flair and flavor. The
results are beneficial all the way around, socially, economically,
environmentally, spiritually, etc. Especially when I am able to grow the
ingredients I need on sustainable farms around the globe, linking the
connection between the earth and her community.
Carlo: Fabulous. Please
watch for updates to this page where will feature photos and more information
about Angja’s dazzling new raw products! Thank you again Angja!
Angja:
You’re welcome.

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